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yeah baby, working perfectly from this end
SSF I shot you a message. I think that I messed up some of your CSS on the FC side this am. Sorry chap!
I’m personally looking at a few things today:
1.) 3-4 defense? Please no.
2.) Interior offensive line. Who’s the next man up?
3.) Gronk snap count?
4.) Can the defense generate any pressure this week?
Can they pick on the Minnesota LBs in the passing game?
Can they run against Minnesota’s sub packages, when they bring their best run stopping LB (Brinkley) off the field?
Some light reading on what to expect today:
What the Patriots Passing Game may try today: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/this-week-in-passing-week-1-patriots-dolphins/
What the Patriots Running Game may look like today: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/this-week-in-running-week-1-patriots-dolphins/
Getting to know the Vikings Offense: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/know-your-enemy-the-vikings-offense/
Getting to know the Vikings Defense: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/know-your-enemy-the-vikings-defense/
Who is replacing Adrian Peterson for the Vikings: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/replacing-adrian-minnesotas-plan-b-and-plan-c/
Enjoy the game and look for new articles like this on Football Central!
I assume the Pats early week game planning called for shutting down Peterson, and make Cassell beat them through the air. Now that AP is shut-down, does the plan D focus shift to Patterson? And will Revis be used to that end?
And great job with this site.
I don’t feel good about this game and wish AP was playing. It’s a typical letdown spot for one team while the other rallies around their guy. So afraid of being 0-2 here.
Nip if I post “there” does it also show up “here” or vise versa?
Try it and find out!
(yes. yes it does).
Big things I’m looking for:
Can the Pats control the LoS on either side of the ball?
Can receivers other than Edelman and Gronk become more involved in the offense?
Revis
I did. Earlier today I posted “there” (Football Central- Pats game thread) around 11AM, but it didn’t post here. I posted here, and it also posted there.
In either case:
GO Pats.
I’m interested to see how Belichick uses Revis today. As Revis ages, and with his prior injury, you’d have to think speed receivers are going to present the biggest problem to him, especially the youngsters. Patterson is one of those guys. I thought Revis actually did a pretty good job with Wallace last week, outside of the one double move, so we’ll see how they handle it this week. Does he still keep the two safeties deep? I don’t think that’s ideal, especially with Collins and Browner out, but maybe Peterson being out gives Belichick more confidence to play it safe(ty). We’ll see.
Also, Devey is starting so FML.
I think putting Revis on Jennings would be more useful as Cassel will be looking at Jennings on important passing downs. I think with Patterson’s speed, the Patriots would be better off using a team approach to neutralize him.
Nice idea Darnell’s Son. Neutralizing Jennings entirely with Revis would leave Rudolph in the middle as the only other real threat to worry about consistently. It will be very interesting to see which Strong Safety is assigned to today’s game: Harmon, Chung or Tavon Wilson OR if one of the corners (Ryan, Arrington) has the deep zone on Rudolph’s side of the formation.
Lol, I picked up the Jennings insight from some fledgling football site. Can’t remember the name of it…
Especially since Patterson isn’t much of a receiver proper yet.
Look at who is on the sidelines!
Yeah. This was actually my original goal w/ .com – a way to take load off during game threads. FC is on a separate server so effectively doubles how many users we can handle
The blitzer just did not get there fast enough.
Nice play by Jones.
That first play is something to watch for. Running out of the shotgun was a winner for Miami last week and Denver last year.
skinner on Rudolph isn’t going to fly.
@KFP/Nip – do we want this featured on the homepage? I can check the boxes.
It should be there, SF121. If it isn’t, then I think so.
I was afraid of Rudolph before. More so now.
Skinner is brutal. Bit hard…
Norv is playing chess, Patricia / BB checkers.
Absolutely awful coverage.
That entire drive was off poor linebacker play by the Patriots. Not very promising.
They’re treating him like the most dangerous player on the planet, though… to great effect in deception.
Bah.
Describing that as poor linebacker play is generous.
Time to question BBs ability to choose linebackers that can cover?
They started to double Rudolph, it seems.
There was a time when that was a question?
@Ross/Nip – you have mail.
Vikings D has already forced as many 3rd downs as the Pats’ D did.
EDIT: and now more fourths.
Get Vereen more carries….
Heck of punt by Allen.
Can’t stand running a 3-4 when you don’t have the personnel to run it.
This team is going to give up 6 ypc against the run out of shotgun.
FYI – RGIII is down.
And another poor snap by Aiken. This has to be his final game if he can’t do his one and only job adequately.
Only way for them to stop that play is blitzing a gap. Not good.
Do they have the personnel to run 4-3?
Knee?
Well played.
My fantasy team hates mccourty for not scoring. What a putrid pass by cassel.
There’s the Cassel I remember.
Yeah. Tried to throw on the run, landed on his left leg awkwardly and is still down on the sideline.
Cousins just threw a TD.
There’s our CF!
Fleming in, ran behind him.
There’s Harrison Smith. Guy is a player.
Ran behind Fleming again for that TD.
RG3 on the cart, knee/lower leg immobilized.
I’m not sure if it’s just scheme (run on strong side of jumbo) or personnel (like Fleming). Either way, his role is pretty etched out right now, and he’s good at it.
Looking at RG3 again (sorry to derail), but it looks likea broken ankle.
Scheme-wise they don’t have the size outside to really run 3-4, but they also don’t necessarily have speed to play 4-3. I just don’t get it. Clearly, BB knows all this and has a theory, but not clear to me what it is yet.
Looks like they’re using Fleming as the strong-side TE in their jumbo package, as they flipped him for the TD run.
D seems to have more energy after that pick.
Also, Minnesota isn’t talented enough to play straight-up. Their best chance is keeping the Pats off-balance as to whether they’ll throw or run. If NE can build a lead so Minny has to throw, it could get ugly.
Revis all over Jennings.
Someone earned $10 for calling that.
Dolphins being back to being Dolphins.
SHOULD HAVE PICKED THE BILLS!
Dobson! Man that was a tight window to pass into.
Play-action and working underneath. It will be there. Just make sure pass protection is down.
They have no confidence in the OL to protect Brady. Both pass attempts off PA. Run twice on 3rd down.
fb Sighting!
LOL Jets Sweep by Edelman. Looks like McD has finally decided to break out some new plays.
Oh, and Devlin!
Gronk gets no separation again this week. Never seen Gronk plodding like that.
Nail on the head.
Isn’t he down when the elbow hits?
Yeah, and with that in mind, I thought: they’ll probably run a screen on 3rd-and-11. Yep.
What a terrible play call on 3rd and long. Go down the field.
GH$STKOWSKI
You should read this article: http://soshcentral.com/nfl/thoughts-on-the-acl-rob-gronkowski-jake-ballard-and-adrian-petersons-baby-knee/
The optimist in me would counter that the Vikings looked lost at times against play-action, especially their LBs underneath, which is why they are running play-action and working those routes. As for the screen on 3rd and 11, it’s basically a draw play to make sure they are in manageable FG range. Conservative but not too insane.
Again, that is the optimist in me.
Siliga pushed the pocket there pretty far. Kalil did a pretty good job steering Jones around, but there was nowhere for Cassel to step up to.
Hey that’s an awesome site! Who’s the dummy that picked the Giants?
Or as stated above they have no confidence in the OL to do any 5 or 7 step drops. Either way, the Playbook shrinks down when the line can’t protect.
No sound here. Did they really call holding on 54?
Chandler Jones fails to keep contain. Stop me if you’ve heard this one before.
Sigh.
Just make a tackle. Don’t blow the guy up, just. Make. A. Tackle.
24. Revis got a hand in the collar off the line.
Welcome to Revis Island.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVISSS!!!!
ISLAND
Why is Bolden on this team and not Finch? WHY I ASK THE GODS
Cassel really forced that one.
Tim Wright doesn’t know the snap count or the formation.
So many penalties. If we didn’t know we had a Hall of Fame coach and were just evaluating this team based on its 5+ quarters this year, we’d say it had crappy coaching.
Munnerlyn is horrible.
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